E46 330d Auto Tuning
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E46 330d Auto
Monday 29th July 2013
Hi Guys,
I am currently looking to down grade my 08 Plate 123D M sport to release a lump sump of money to go towards a deposit on a house.
I have been offerred an E46 04 Plate, 330D Auto, 56,000 miles, FSH, sounds like a nice car but I am yet to view it and drive it, I can have it for £6k..
Never been keen on autos, how do these cars work with an auto box? I do a good mix of driving but enjoy spirtied B road drives from time to time.. I have also read that the Auto box can fail at around 100k miles unless you change the oil in the box regularly, but then there are conflicting things surrounding this on various forums..
Anyone with some advice please??
Thanks.
I am currently looking to down grade my 08 Plate 123D M sport to release a lump sump of money to go towards a deposit on a house.
I have been offerred an E46 04 Plate, 330D Auto, 56,000 miles, FSH, sounds like a nice car but I am yet to view it and drive it, I can have it for £6k..
Never been keen on autos, how do these cars work with an auto box? I do a good mix of driving but enjoy spirtied B road drives from time to time.. I have also read that the Auto box can fail at around 100k miles unless you change the oil in the box regularly, but then there are conflicting things surrounding this on various forums..
Anyone with some advice please??
Thanks.
Monday 29th July 2013
These cars are generally very reliable and auto or manual shouldn't let you down.
The auto gearbox on the E46 is a world away from the modern ZF or DCT boxes but does have a steptronic function to allow the manual selection of gears.
£6k sounds a little steep but i am sure you've done all the usual research (autotrdaer, PH Classified, etc) to confirm this.
The auto gearbox on the E46 is a world away from the modern ZF or DCT boxes but does have a steptronic function to allow the manual selection of gears.
£6k sounds a little steep but i am sure you've done all the usual research (autotrdaer, PH Classified, etc) to confirm this.
Monday 29th July 2013
swirl flaps are the 'demons' i always read about on BMW forums when it comes to diesels.
http://www.bmwforums.info/
I find this another great site for advice / search.
I have the petrol,and it's manual, so can't comment too much further. but I do think E46 in general is very reliable. Mine's @ 102k with no problems.
330d's are generally the most expensive, so with 56k (low miles!!) my gut reaction is that 6k seems good. but as the other chap said, benchmark with the usual suspects and negotiate.
http://www.bmwforums.info/
I find this another great site for advice / search.
I have the petrol,and it's manual, so can't comment too much further. but I do think E46 in general is very reliable. Mine's @ 102k with no problems.
330d's are generally the most expensive, so with 56k (low miles!!) my gut reaction is that 6k seems good. but as the other chap said, benchmark with the usual suspects and negotiate.
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Monday 29th July 2013
Thanks guys, £6k seems reasonable as all the other 330ds seem to be £6k plus with 80,000+ miles!
Tuesday 30th July 2013
Seems to be lots of conflicting MPG figures on the forum for the 330d auto, my understanding is the auto loses 4-5mpg over the manual..? Any1 got a 330d auto that can quote some realistic mpg figures please?
Currently get on the 123D OBC with mixed driving 37 ish. I don't hang around either :-)
Currently get on the 123D OBC with mixed driving 37 ish. I don't hang around either :-)
Tuesday 30th July 2013
With mainly motorway driving I get 35.9mpg and that's calculated properly not by the car! Whilst it is motorway miles I tend to be on there when it's quiet, so tend to use on-slips to their full advantage..
Wednesday 31st July 2013
I liked the auto better in the 330d than the 330i fwiw. My older, 51, used to average 30mpg around town/local etc, 40mpg at best on a run.
Only problem I had iirc was headlight washers, and the headlights weren't very good.
Only problem I had iirc was headlight washers, and the headlights weren't very good.
Wednesday 31st July 2013
Thank you for the replies, well I have managed to secure a 24 hour test drive in the car I am looking as a friend of mine is a car dealer.
Will see what it's like and keep you posted..
Will see what it's like and keep you posted..
Wednesday 31st July 2013
According to FuelLog mine has averaged 39.45 MPG over the past 3 months, probably 60:40 motorway to town work. Mine has the Spanish box however, my old 320Cd was an Auto and I wasn;t the biggest fan if I'm honest. Changes were smooth enough and manual mode was fun, but I got bored pretty quickly of not changing gear myself, or having a clutch for low speed maneuvering.
Mine was also £3.5K 18 months ago, but is an SE with slightly dubious history (Accident Reparied at some point in its life, little service history). However I had use of it a few times before I bought it as a courtesy car, and could find no issues. 30K miles later, only thing thats failed was an alternator belt - 120 quid to fix.
Bloody superb cars if you ask me, and I hate diesels with a passion. Love the 330d however, I never get bored of getting past people with a flex of the right foot.
Mine was also £3.5K 18 months ago, but is an SE with slightly dubious history (Accident Reparied at some point in its life, little service history). However I had use of it a few times before I bought it as a courtesy car, and could find no issues. 30K miles later, only thing thats failed was an alternator belt - 120 quid to fix.
Bloody superb cars if you ask me, and I hate diesels with a passion. Love the 330d however, I never get bored of getting past people with a flex of the right foot.
Wednesday 31st July 2013
So far I have covered 100 miles with a good mix of country roads, dual carriageway and rush hour town traffic, car says its doing 36.6 mpg.. Auto box works very well, I never thought I would like it but its so easy, smooth and the sport mode is good. Car handles well!
So far so good, a few minor niggles such as wheel wobble that needs sorting but a straight car.
Thanks for all the replies.
So far so good, a few minor niggles such as wheel wobble that needs sorting but a straight car.
Thanks for all the replies.
Wednesday 31st July 2013
These cars are generally very reliable and auto or manual shouldn't let you down.
The auto gearbox on the E46 is a world away from the modern ZF or DCT boxes but does have a steptronic function to allow the manual selection of gears.
£6k sounds a little steep but i am sure you've done all the usual research (autotrdaer, PH Classified, etc) to confirm this.
Actually 6k isn't that bad considering the mileage is quite low, if it's in a condition to match body-work wise and well-specced then I reckon it's not excessive. Might be able to negotiate it down a bit but not by more than about 10% I wouldn't have thought. The auto gearbox on the E46 is a world away from the modern ZF or DCT boxes but does have a steptronic function to allow the manual selection of gears.
£6k sounds a little steep but i am sure you've done all the usual research (autotrdaer, PH Classified, etc) to confirm this.
Thursday 1st August 2013
Guys, thank you for all your help on this..
Had the car overnight and covered 110 miles on £20 diesel of very mixed driving including spirited B road driving. What can I say??
The E46 330d is quite a car, even though it is 9 years old it still felt really solid. A very smooth, comfortable car and a nice cabin, as for the auto box I was quite impressed but would still rather a manual. The car did feel heavy but it still made good progress round the B roads, the particular one I had cheap tyres on it, with some better boots I reckon it would have gone round some of the corners a bit quicker.
Along with the cheap tyres, the service book only had 4 stamps and the car needed a little TLC, I am sure when this has been done it will be a lovely car for someone.
Apart from the dated interior, the age of the car and the performance figures compared to the current 330d coupe I could almost argue that this car is not a downgrade from my 123d.. It felt like it had more torque and I did prefer the sound of the 6 cylinder diesel over my 4.
This is just my opinion, but the car did leave me with a smile on my face.
Unfortunately the auto box stopped the Mrs and I going for this one.. the search continues.. for a manual one.
Had the car overnight and covered 110 miles on £20 diesel of very mixed driving including spirited B road driving. What can I say??
The E46 330d is quite a car, even though it is 9 years old it still felt really solid. A very smooth, comfortable car and a nice cabin, as for the auto box I was quite impressed but would still rather a manual. The car did feel heavy but it still made good progress round the B roads, the particular one I had cheap tyres on it, with some better boots I reckon it would have gone round some of the corners a bit quicker.
Along with the cheap tyres, the service book only had 4 stamps and the car needed a little TLC, I am sure when this has been done it will be a lovely car for someone.
Apart from the dated interior, the age of the car and the performance figures compared to the current 330d coupe I could almost argue that this car is not a downgrade from my 123d.. It felt like it had more torque and I did prefer the sound of the 6 cylinder diesel over my 4.
This is just my opinion, but the car did leave me with a smile on my face.
Unfortunately the auto box stopped the Mrs and I going for this one.. the search continues.. for a manual one.
Thursday 1st August 2013
People will tell you not to bother but I really liked my manual e46 330d, definitely worth the effort in looking around
Thursday 1st August 2013
People will tell you not to bother but I really liked my manual e46 330d, definitely worth the effort in looking around
The auto does work well, don't get me wrong, but 4-5 mpg loss compared to the manual doesn't make sense to me. Also the Mrs doesn't get on with auto, I drive them all the time at work and the Merc sprinter box is S***Friday 2nd August 2013
Excellent cars these, recently spent €€€ on my 325 and now it feels supertight again. Extremely reliable and good looking cars with some of the best interiors BMW ever did imo. Although autobox is more suited to cruising then pressing on on a b-road.
Saturday 3rd August 2013
Agreed, but for and auto even in sport mode it mad good progress.. I did enjoy driving it.
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E46 330d as a tuning platform?
Friday 10th August 2012
I'm sure this has been asked before so happy to pointed to other info regarding this. Although Google seemed to turn up only companies and 3/4 year old threads.
Btw I'm asking for two reasons; one I genuinely don't know the answers and two I find it interesting and somewhat facinating. So it's all for fun rather than for doing.
As prices of 330d's seem to have dropped to quite affordable levels and there's a healthy habit of mapping the newer 335d and other diesels in general. How does the e46 with a manual box stack up to being turned into a Tarmac tearing runaway?
I guess areas of interest are:
-what sort of power can be leveraged from the engine and by what means
-how stout is the engine, at what point does it fail and how
-what sort of upgrades are a available
-how does the drivetrain, specifically the manual gearbox and clutch hold up and can they be upgraded
-any other weak points?
I'm guessing that such a motor should be good for 300hp or so. But no idea of the stock turbo, injectors and fuel system are capable of this. We're there any major changes specifically to the e46 330d during its production run?
Thanks in advance.
Btw I'm asking for two reasons; one I genuinely don't know the answers and two I find it interesting and somewhat facinating. So it's all for fun rather than for doing.
As prices of 330d's seem to have dropped to quite affordable levels and there's a healthy habit of mapping the newer 335d and other diesels in general. How does the e46 with a manual box stack up to being turned into a Tarmac tearing runaway?
I guess areas of interest are:
-what sort of power can be leveraged from the engine and by what means
-how stout is the engine, at what point does it fail and how
-what sort of upgrades are a available
-how does the drivetrain, specifically the manual gearbox and clutch hold up and can they be upgraded
-any other weak points?
I'm guessing that such a motor should be good for 300hp or so. But no idea of the stock turbo, injectors and fuel system are capable of this. We're there any major changes specifically to the e46 330d during its production run?
Thanks in advance.
Friday 10th August 2012
Friday 10th August 2012
You wont get an original 184bhp 330d anywhere near 300bhp without spending so much money as to render the entire thing pointless.
Friday 10th August 2012
I'd sort the diff first personally.
Are they a bit chocolate? Does an M3 use a different rear end?Friday 10th August 2012
You wont get an original 184bhp 330d anywhere near 300bhp without spending so much money as to render the entire thing pointless.
Honestly I don't know much about these, would love to know more. I know things like a 2.5 Td5 from a Landy is good for 200hp, maybe 220. And most Yank diesels are pretty good for 80-100bhp/litre when tuned.Friday 10th August 2012
If you want to tune a big german diesel google 'mercedes OM606', they are are great for tuning huge HP.
Friday 10th August 2012
You can get a comfortable 250bhp with 370ft/lbs from an E46 330d with the M57N (204bhp) unit with just a remap. Once you consider a FMIC, 335d injectors and even a hybrid turbo, 300bhp and 500ft/lbs is achievable. You then reach the limit of clutches and gearboxes (both auto and manual) and definitely need bigger brakes and an LSD.
It's the law of diminishing returns after the remap to be honest.
It's the law of diminishing returns after the remap to be honest.
Friday 10th August 2012
A 330d clutch is close to the limit with a regular remap, so anything above and beyond that, you might want to think about a single mass flywheel and fancy uprated clutch.
Friday 10th August 2012
Intercooler also - http://www.ca-at.co.uk/products-Y2FyX21ha2U9Ym13Jm..
There was a vid somewhere I cant find it of a 330d that was pretty much on par with an E46 M3. Obviously for £££ of work though.
Also these guys are good for decat, etc:
http://www.ecotune-scotland.co.uk/
There was a vid somewhere I cant find it of a 330d that was pretty much on par with an E46 M3. Obviously for £££ of work though.
Also these guys are good for decat, etc:
http://www.ecotune-scotland.co.uk/
Saturday 11th August 2012
Here's some inspiration http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=8194..
There were also two British guys that entered the Gumball rally a few years ago with a 300hp 330d with similar mods.
There were also two British guys that entered the Gumball rally a few years ago with a 300hp 330d with similar mods.
Saturday 11th August 2012
Thanks. So does anyone know the differences between the 184 and 204 versions of the engine?
Saturday 11th August 2012
Some of the main differences are the ECU
184 bhp has the EDC 15 and the 204 bhp has the EDC 16 which is much more up to date The 184, 5 speed manual, 204, 6 speed manual which I believe is much stronger
184 bhp has the EDC 15 and the 204 bhp has the EDC 16 which is much more up to date The 184, 5 speed manual, 204, 6 speed manual which I believe is much stronger
Saturday 11th August 2012
Considering how little you can now get an E46 M3 for, i can't really see why you'd want to bother tuning a 330d, either virtually or Actually?? Especially when the M3 comes with all the bits that make >300bhp work (suspension, brakes, diff, etc etc)
Saturday 11th August 2012
Considering how little you can now get an E46 M3 for, i can't really see why you'd want to bother tuning a 330d, either virtually or Actually?? Especially when the M3 comes with all the bits that make >300bhp work (suspension, brakes, diff, etc etc)
Quite a big price difference by the looks of it still. I know mods cost but I'd think you'd need maybe double the money plus for the M3. And it'll then use more fuel. Saturday 11th August 2012
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Saturday 11th August 2012
True. But some cars are cheaper to extract it from, more usable and more affordable to run.
For instance of I'm reading this right:
-remap
-fmic
-filter
-injectors
-clutch
Is likely to give you 280-300hp good mpg and not really that much cost. Slap a 100 shot of nitrous on there too and I suspect rather a giggle for not really a huge sum of money.
For instance of I'm reading this right:
-remap
-fmic
-filter
-injectors
-clutch
Is likely to give you 280-300hp good mpg and not really that much cost. Slap a 100 shot of nitrous on there too and I suspect rather a giggle for not really a huge sum of money.
Sunday 12th August 2012
True. But some cars are cheaper to extract it from, more usable and more affordable to run.
For instance of I'm reading this right:
-remap
-fmic
-filter
-injectors
-clutch
Is likely to give you 280-300hp good mpg and not really that much cost. Slap a 100 shot of nitrous on there too and I suspect rather a giggle for not really a huge sum of money.
All depends on what you call 'much cost' and 'a huge sum of money', I guess. For instance of I'm reading this right:
-remap
-fmic
-filter
-injectors
-clutch
Is likely to give you 280-300hp good mpg and not really that much cost. Slap a 100 shot of nitrous on there too and I suspect rather a giggle for not really a huge sum of money.
You'd have to do the remap last, after fitting a all those parts and having a diesel nitrous system fitted, in order to get the whole of it working correctly (which ideally should also include a decent rolling road session to fine tune it all and keep it all usable), which is all going to start to add up.
Sunday 12th August 2012
True. But some cars are cheaper to extract it from, more usable and more affordable to run.
For instance of I'm reading this right:
-remap
-fmic
-filter
-injectors
-clutch
Is likely to give you 280-300hp good mpg and not really that much cost. Slap a 100 shot of nitrous on there too and I suspect rather a giggle for not really a huge sum of money.
All depends on what you call 'much costFor instance of I'm reading this right:
-remap
-fmic
-filter
-injectors
-clutch
Is likely to give you 280-300hp good mpg and not really that much cost. Slap a 100 shot of nitrous on there too and I suspect rather a giggle for not really a huge sum of money.
' and 'a huge sum of money', I guess. You'd have to do the remap last, after fitting a all those parts and having a diesel nitrous system fitted, in order to get the whole of it working correctly (which ideally should also include a decent rolling road session to fine tune it all and keep it all usable), which is all going to start to add up.Well the filter and FMIC you could fairly easily fab up I'm sure. Exhaust £300-500. Injectors I don't know, but you could fit them yourself I suspect. Clutch is a cost you'd have to consider on any used car. Remap I'd have thought £200-500. Shouldn't need a map for nitrous. Nitrous costs but is huge hp/£ ratio and you can remove the kit and use on something else should you want.
A cost yes, but probably possible to still be a fair bit cheaper than buying an M3 and of course modding means you can do it over months rather than in a one off hit.
Sunday 12th August 2012
Shouldn't need a map for nitrous..
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Nitrous oxide systems alter the fuel/air ratio though so ideally you would need the correct engine mapping to make it work properly, especially on a turbo charged engine.Also, as I understand it, adding nitrous oxide to diesel engines is a little more involved than for petrol engines due to the way diesels operate and ignite their fuel.
Sunday 12th August 2012
Propane injection would offer considerable performance and efficiency gains.
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